Yeh, I knew it was down there somehwere...just didn't know where...Anyways, if they have to use that as an excuse for doing what they do, they don't really beleieve in themselves do they? Sorta OT: Who thinks their relgion is like the Nazi party and started at member 50? Which leaves the remaining ~30, who think the family members have joined as a 'pity' member?