all fair comments there mr porter you are a dude, and i knew it was about me just didn't want to get into much of a row to be honest cus i have had enough and as i said before i am trying to work on it, so that is the swearing thing covered but the other unsportsman like conduct that is going on at the nationals at the moment is another issue that martyn was trying to address and i see where he is coming from and i think that there is too much back stabbing going on between the top riders and not enough respect, you may think that this is a rich comment coming from me but to be honest now i actually want it all to end because i am tired of all the squabling an bull**** and think that we should all chill i wana change how i am and just have fun because for a while last year trials had stopped being fun and that is what it should be and fair play to martyn for bringing all of these points ( yes mart i am impressed that you care so much still for the comp scene). I think that observers are important and whenever i argue with an observer i try to stay as calm as possible i dnt agree with people going mad at them because they are volunteers.... there was such an atmosphere at devon because of the problems with andre and most of the master riders thought that it was back stabbing to penalise him at the first round however if his bike didn't come inside of the rules that is also his fault so both parties are to blame one for being a little harsh and the other for poor bike mechanicing, so that problem was then carried over to devon i hope that it is sorted and both parties sort things out..... ben savage send us over a pm hope we could go out riding and bury the hatchet whatever it is cheers lads thats me trying to change, hope that the petty squabbling on here can change too ps i am really bad at typing so it mite be a bit crap to understand sorry :$