Danny i thought you was running an echo rim? if your pads really dont touch with a normal bleed and full tpa or something and an echo rim, theres something seriously wrong. my zoo forks dead pads and echo rim, i dont even have to use tpa and my brakes too far away from the bars, so i have to use warn pads. and i never knew about this over bleeding thing, wont it be abit dodgy if your pads fall out? lol. Matx