I really didn't get on with this chain, partly my own fault, but know quite a few people with similar (negative) opinions... Starters I found they just rusted really easily, I did clean and lube it a few times in the (just under) 4 months I had it, but even when I cleaned and lubed it properly, it rusted really quickly. The stiff links!! The entire chain was stiff, even though I loosened every link a few times, it was horrible, just so unsmooth and nasty. Then it snapped. [attachmentid=2811] Now running a KMC Kool, soooo much smoother. I think a KMC, replace it every 3 - 4 months > *.