Calm down rocky. Just because pete wright does get slated for some stuff does not mean you should slate his every word, this is a potentially interesting and constructive thread if you didn't reply like a four and a half year old retard. On topic, i agree with a lot of frame designs now blending into the same kind of look, i think there should be a bit more versatility in frames now a days, but obviously with the amount of sales these manufacturers get with existing designs, there probably seems like no need for change in their eyes. Koxx seem to be the wannabe pioneers at the moment bringing out what seems to be a new prototype each week, some of them with potential, and others that are just plain ridiculous. Theres only so much change that can be done to dropouts, but i'm sure as frame technology progresses we will see change.