Yes I think so, I've not fully looking into the line rental part yet, but I think the girls will want a phone in the house so...meh their job Thats good to hear! How much do you roughly download? because between us we're probably goign to torrent download about 7gb a month (maybe more) as well as web pages and Counterstrike etc I guess thats going to add up to quite a bit.....? Also tom, do you know roughly how much downloading will count as "breaking-the-fair-usage-policy"? I think thats our only worry at the moment.... Thanks for the speedy replies though