Im afraid i disagree. Saracen do do good stock bikes for beginners but honestly, it's much easier to learn on a mod and a saracen isn't the one to do it on. Onza t-pro is a GREAT starter bike, its cheap, ok-ish geometry, and parts good enough for a learner If you can't stretch to that get a t-bird or if you're still too skint get a t-vee. Onza have always been known to cater for riders across the range from riders such as yourself, up to Danny Butler standard. I personally think that deng and koxx aren't AS good for beginners because they're higher quality and higher price which isn't what a begginer needs. I know python's have come down in price etc. but i'd still say onza are better for begginners BTW that doesn't mean onza are better fullstop so don't start bitching.....