yeah? lol doesn't mean he knows how to weld Im not saying tra should, but to be honest he cant really critisize someones work if: a its not actually been made yet lol b no real specifics have been said its like saying the FP new frame will be piss-poor. I kinda like tra, i do think hes a bit up himself in general but im guessing situations like this hes been misinterrpreted or "mis-heard" anyway my opinion on the frames: good luck. seriously at the moment koxx frames don't seem to last as long as other frames (unless youre top end rider) which means cheap steel frames are going to have a larger market and larger amount of buyers Good idea imo! just don't put pashley, leeson, iolo out of business