lol, no worries. You need to lighten up on your riding lol ATM, im using koxx red pads, on a DEAD GRIND, and they FRICKEN AMAZING!!!!! lol They bite like fook, and they are loud as fook... and hold like fook.. lol This is only after i touched them very hard on the flat surface of my angle grinder, just to "glossen" the surface up, like you do on koxx browns to make them better, and as soon as i done this, my brake went fricken AWESOME!!!! lol Thanks.