According to Onzaboymark... The Zips ride nice than Zoos. That's his owm opinion though, but i follow it. 'Cause I ride a Zip. Oh, on topic: One of my mates has the new T-Mag. It's short (like the others) and rides alright... I prefer my Zip, but I prefer longer mods. Another mate has the older one (yellow one) and that rides nicely. Still mega short compared to my Zona, but still feels nice. Shame they're not too strong. Also, his brother has the ollld one. Y'know...square tubing? I've never rode it properly, but it's super short, and I can flick it about... Looks like it's made out of old table legs.