It's the best forum i've ever used becasue of the rules, and the fact that they are actually kept. Shit when they go against you, but they are the rules. It was brought up in the SM section and everyone had a natter and decided what to do. I love you etc and you cause me sex wee's, but i'll be honest and say that i was up for banning the account. It's the way it's gotta be to keep the forum as good as it is. It's taken for granted until you go on another forum. You gotta have rules (teef [obie trice]) baby Reading up that thread in the SM chat, nobody was being personal, but it was just fair, so that in future if it happens to a proper gimp, then it's justified to do the same to them, which is in turn, keeping the forum shithot. bongo