A standard Ti is 19.2lbs plus pedals at 0.9lbs... so its just over 20lbs. The main places to save weight over a standard Ti are the front tyre (250g), pedals (~40g), rim tapes (30g) and bashplate (~280g if you go all the way and rip the bashplate mounts off the frame). I've also added a smattering of Ti and Alloy bolts in the brakes, carbon lever blades save a bit each as well. I had my Ti down to 8.44kg/18.60lbs with those mods. --> http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....howtopic=100229 My 221 Ti frame without bashplate and mounts comes in at 1.59kg, VERY light! With the bashplate and mounts on it was more like 1.85... Anodising cost me £50, shot blasting £20 (gives that nice matt finish), plus postage... Steve can do loads of colours as well. You have to strip all paint (45g, hehe) off the frame before sending it to anodising. The square hole in the head tube only saves about 10g, but I've done loads of other bits to shed weight: Frame and bash, as new = 2044g Frame no bash, saved 142g No paint, saved 42g Bashplate mounts off bb shell/downtube, saved 22g Bashplate mounts off stays, head tube hole, one yoke plate machined out, saved 43g Hole in top tube, other yoke plate machined out, general tidying, saved 16g Corners off the rear dropouts off, general filing to bashplate mounts, saved 14g More filing and grinding to various bits, saved 8g Head tube ring reinforcements removed, saved 5g Faced/reamed headtube and BB shell, saved 2g Larger holes in dropouts, more head tube work (breathe holes into top and down tubes), scoop on BB shell, saved 15g Shot blasting and anodising, saved 14g Total saving 323g Haha, a LOT! There's about 20 hours work in it @ £20 an hour. Steve charged £70 for shot blasting and anodising, plus delivery.