The frames aren't all the same though, there are huge differences. Just like with ANY product, the higher end stuff has much more put into it. Example: 'Cheap' frame: - Plain gauge tubing with simple shapes (Echo lite) - Less CNC work (Echo Lite) - Made to lower tolerances (Da Bomb etc) - Standard sticker graphics (ZOO Pitbull) - Basic paint finish or just lacquered (Echo/ZOO/Adamant) Car analogy: BMW (cos this type of trials bike frame is MUCH better than a Halfords special/Kia) 'Expensive' frame: - Butted or hydroformed tubing, extra bends, complex profiles (Hydroxx, Monty Kamel, Limey 3) - Lots of CNC work (Koxx XTP/Sky) - Made to higher standards, better welding, higher tolerances (Koxx) - Anodised finish or water transfers, even fade anodising like in the case of the Rockman! (Kortz, Slate) - Cost of supporting a huge world team with equipment, travel expenses etc... (Monty, Koxx) Car analogy: Ferarri Get what I mean? Ads