aye, but you had a black oily shite on your rim to be fair you did have em the best part of a year wasnt it? and theres still 7mm of material left. on a black rim with a u brake i dont recon the v flys wil be that great christoph but who knows, the salmons work well on bens and he has a similar setup. you may as well try my v flys out for a bit, and if they're shite you dont have to waste your money. i dont recon i'll be riding bmx for a bit, what with it being boring as fanny and all . ye, try my ones. could always get the same as luke, coustsinks ont black rim work a treat.