I have had 3 or 4 hopes, I have been dissapointed with them all! dont like how they feel, they would randomly stop working, the pads would get contaminated if they were in the same room as oil and they get cooked easily. Avids on the other hand are more powerful, easier to set up, nice feel, more adjustable....they just out class the hope in every way, except two.....weight and strength. I have broken a few avids, that is their biggest downfall.....still waaay better than hopes though.