you dont notice cable strech, its not like its a piece of elastic, vee brakes are pretty stiff when set up right. Vees do seem to have more hold than a maggie, I dont know why, but they just do. [iNH]Serg_rus: you cant really judge a brake unless is set up well. Its like comparing a top end vee with good pads on a grind with a maggie setup badly with black pads, thats not a fair judgment.