Ali C

it's fine

I don't think it's that bad a thing to fall off when in demos. From my experience when you fall when trying something hard, people realise that the stuff you are trying isn't a walk in the park and you are actually trying some pretty difficult and dangerous stuff. The commentator can then get the crowd really behind the rider wanting him/her to execute the move and when the rider does land it, the crowd tend to go nuts. If the demo is too easy to ride, it can show, no-one wants to see people do stuff they is easy for them, the crowd want crashes, they want the danger element.

I think that may be more adequate

Ah yes, looks like I read it the wrong way, I apologise and take back my comments made thereafter.

Dave, you say you think my type of riding isn't trials....what would you say it is? It's been a while since we rode together and you last saw me on my seatless comp bike, sure my bike now has a seat and a shorter wheelbase, but do you really think I have stopped doing trialsy stuff completely? Sure I do a few things that are directly ripped from bmx, but 90% of what I do is still traditional trialsy stuff. Also you only answered 1 of my questions (and others have ignored them completely).

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Andee Andee, while you're here, please read and respond to my post, I am not after an argument, I am genuinely interested.

can someone like Andee or Dave answer my questions? I am actually interested in your views.

Matt, I don't mind what label myself and other go under for the type of bikes being ridden, I call myself a trials rider because the most of my riding falls under that category. the thing that grinds my gears is when I see people claim that they are the proper trials riders and people like Danny are almost cast as outsiders. What I want to know is when was the decision made about who or what makes a rider a proper trials rider or a fake one? It seems to be a pretty recent development, perhaps people never saw trials when people were winning comps on bikes with seats and gears? Lets talk about the Trials kings.....were they trials riders? I am pretty sure most (everyone?) would say yes despite the fact they hardly rode comps and were doing spins, manuals, stoppies, x-ups etc way before people had heard of Mr Macaskill or 24" bikes. Another thing I notice is that a lot of comp riders (especially the Euro guys) can be seen doing things like one handers when on the back wheel, crank flips and stuff when messing around, why is that acceptable and a tailwhip not? Like I said, I don't mind what label we are, but will the people who think trials is only comp riding with no seats please stop acting like you are more legit than the rest of us. Anyway, some of the street skills pay off in comps, take the last world champs for example, the sections had kickers in them, Gilles is an amazing rider, but he couldn't ride the kickers for shit. Kenny on the other hand rides street as well as comps, has a much more rounded riding style and crushed Gilles that day. When is a particular skill on a bike not worth having? When should a rider think "I have learned enough moves, I don't need to learn any more"? Trials is a challenge, the moment you stop wanting to learn new stuff is the moment you are failing to be a trials rider.

from my experience, you can't beat Shimano QRs

My link The hub uses end caps, they are not joined in the middle.

holy bar angle batman!

nope, it just doesn't have an axle be it threaded or not.

the Pro 2 doesn't have an axle, so bolts are not an option.

myself and Iolo invented the term years ago (2006?)

I didn't mean to upset everyone from south Wales, I apologise.

brakeless sounds like it's just what you need. I almost guarantee you'll love it.

is this your main bike? if not how about brakeless? That will teach some good skills, make the bike nice and quiet and will be REALLY fun.

I say ditch the front rim brake, they are no match for a disk when it comes to smooth flowy riding, any chance of one on the rear? That would be ideal. if the frame has vee mounts stick with vees, I LOVE vee brakes, HOWEVER, for street riding, I found they rattled about a bit too much and tended to make the riding seem a lot harsher than it was. Magura's are crap, but the best for a quieter bike. as for pads, it depends on what rim you have, if it's a smooth anodised rim, then some pads meant for a grind would actually work well if you want it to be quiet (TNN, Phatpads, Rocks pads etc) if it is ground or has been ground, then you will either have a brake with lots of noise with pads designed for trials and a grind, or stick with your current pads and put up with the lack of hold.

I have kinda said all that's needed to be said and I don't want to clutter up what was a good topic, but Dave, I don't disagree with your last comment, the world champs are exactly that, the best in the world at what they do (not getting into the TGS V Comp argument), what really annoyed me was the fact you said that if you don't do comps you're not a real trials rider which is a completely different subject to you're last comment.

it shows

I love slow motion, it's funny seeing muscles wobble and the flex in the bike. I liked the music too!

I only won a hand full of comps in the 12 years I did them, I rode them because they were fun. Anyway, I would rather win a comp because I rode well rather than there being no-one there.

is everyone from south Wales retarded?

doing well in comps because no-one else turns up is kinda defeating the point.