Hey, just thought I would share mine.... Like will i was to worried about the shortness, and i was right about a few things, i cant front touch But i can bunnyhop so really you lose something but you gain something Im really glad i got it, its so much more fun to ride than the echo. Everything else i can do just as good as on the echo, well i think i will when i get used to it There too fun, get one Around the 300 mark, not sure exactly cheers andy