sounds like my throwing technique is wrong, i recall a few times where i've jumped on when it was slightly to the side, and stacked it hard! also i don't think im aiming at where i jump on on the board... i'll try nearer the backside of the board next time. dan.. breaking ankles on the beach would SUCK, its like the least likely place to break a bone because its so 'soft' especially the wet sand. steve