I got a Panasonic Panasonic NV-GS80EB-S seems pretty good to me, you cna get extra lenses to add on too, there a wide angle and tele lens. I havent used it yet as crap weather, and my fire wire connection not working on my PC. One thing thats not os good it the way yoiu have to plug it in via usb or Firewire. 1st you have to take the battery off, plug the mains cable into the camer, and then the usb/firewire into the camera I got it for about £220 off play! not bad really..