andyroo

You must have a dodgy olive then! Bit of a bummer and a few days waiting for another one it looks like

So why dont onza cover the costs of researching a new frame, and satisfy a market of people who want long frames by just releasing a rebadged frame? Like i say, it would give them time and money to do something of their own creation

you dont need a special tool! on the end of the hosing, you slid the plastic cover, then the metal bolt, then the olive. screw the bolt into the lever until reasonably tight, then hey presto! all done

STILL none of you are actually taking the time to read what ive written! I am not saying that short bikes are crap. WHAT I AM SAYING is that onza has no market for longer mod bikes, which, at the rate they sell at, would be a good move. Im not saying this from a geo, how it rides point of view, im talking about from a business point of view. If onza fling out a long copy of the python, they will have both sides of the market covered, and the prospect of owning a long frame for half the price of the original would sell the frame very well. More money means better research testing, etc resulting in better frames. I fail to see how any of you can post back and say I'm talking crap about this, because it makes perfect sense.

Im not getting annoyed at onza, im getting annoyed at the people who read the first two words of a post and then reply to it with their own idea of what they have written. Just because someone has copied a picture from OTN of this bike, doesnt mean it'll happen. what ever happened to the zoo python 04 style onza mod? Whenever their has been a thread about new onza frames in which Mike Poyzer has responded, ive asked about the idea of having the frames released in two sizes. And surprisingly enough, people like longer frames not because they like the prospect of entering CLS rear end, but because they are taller and find it easier to handle. Its a whole market of poepl that are missing out on, purely for what, a few extra cm? So many poepl regard the onza mod frames as being beginner frames, purely because they are short! Just to think, if onza release an already thought out copy of the long python, then they have something for that market which will give them time and money to tesearch into a long design frame of their own! So why dont they?

Im talking about the bloody current range! for crying out loud it doesnt take two seconds to read a post properly rather than skim reading it does it?

i would do but some of us are at work... er... working and since when is a t pro long and a trex a mod? read what i write before spilling your poorly gramatacised drivvle over the pages of this thread... oh and something else i thought of... why would Ben pester onza about prototyping a longer mod if he thought the current range were long enough? and hes not exactly tall is he?

because it works

ahem :(

your point being... there all short

As it happens yes i have... ask the pink elephant i was with at the time... and is that long proto frame going to be released anytime soon, if at all? Will onza have the guts to release it? So my point still stands... when will onza ever learn

Yeah, when will onza ever learn...

I reall really wanted some tickets, the line up is amazing and i realy wanted to see pink floyd so badly

Dan Hardman is selling some echo teams for about that price

Whenever anyone says emo i instantly think of: I know hes Elmo, but its just too similar for my liking

Its the same with everything in the world, some are good, and some are bad. You cant really judge all the people in one go. The only thing you can criticise is anything written down in Holy Books, because then the whole religion should believe it

cheers! i really liked the intrical detail on your stuff, the perfect symettry, the perfectly neat patterns. the kind of patience required for that sort of perfection is something i could never do!!

Some drawings of mine, using pencils, a biro and ink fineliners:

Don't you have sandwiches for breakfast in Holland? When I did the Nijmegan walk, sandwiches (horrible ones) were the only thing available at the hostel we were staying at for breakfast EDIT: Marmite is yum

The power in those moves.. why does CLS not look like Arnie Swartzadoodah? How can someone hop up on a rail that high with such ease? Amazing stuff, keep it up :thumbsup: