Chris King hubs are NOT shit. If they were shit then why do the majority of trials riders use them? If you've used a king hub and not liked it then fair enough, thats your choice... but it doesn't mean they are all shit. I've seen alot more Hope hubs break, skip and blow up than king hubs, and im not saying Kings dont break either. Also who cares where its made? Aslong it works im not to bothered.. The Hope Pro 2 Trials is looking good, fitted one to my bike yesterday and rode last night. Had no problems with it, you cant tell the difference between 48 and 72 engagments. Will be good to see if it dies after a few months, which is what really decides if a hub is good or not Stan.