I personally feel that this place has become very rigid and as a consequence, quite dry. It actually reminds me of section7 and the reasons I stopped using that forum. A lot of people sitting on their higher ground, getting "annoyed" at the "shortcomings" of others, be that "pointless posts", "bed spelling" or whatever. Continual pouncing on others for not being perfect is boring (for me anyway) and it leads to the removal of a lot of the humour that previously went with pointlessness - is there any point to humour? And I especially have to agree with extreme biker about not being able to contest a ban. As somebody who clearly has an interest in politics, Rich I will suggest that you wouldn't accept the government saying that they should be able to ban you from various activities without your being able to contest such a thing? Sounds quite draconian to me. But then perhaps I'm being a bit over the top with that analogy - this is only a forum, right? No doubt my opinion will be an unpopular one but nevermind (standard procedure)