and now i realise WHY trials doesnt interest me half as much........come to look for some 2nd hand parts and read topics like @have all the big riders quit.......just to read absolute bollox....... there is bigger and better things out there......and half of the problem is, people spend way too much time on thier computers TALKIN' bout it and not DOIN' it. My job limits me to riding trials and also my football interest........as i found that trials got a bit too sensitive and very political, and all i wanted to do was ride my bike for fun, so instead, i go play football then go get PISSED and have a good laugh with my mates. the only part of trials i miss, is been around people that i made really good friends with, but i catch up with them every now and again. Dave had a fair point and people just close you down over petty shite, at the end of the day THIS IS THE INTERNET its full of opinions and alot of you will NEVER EVER agree, so do yourself a favor, AGREE to DISAGREE........ Wayne i demised the day that jack carthy started using TF........sorry for the rant, suppose old age and scroogism gets to us all some day i still ride my bike for FUN and prob like CLS enjoy it more that way.