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Hi, I have just bought my youngest son an Onza Sting for Christmas. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/kids_trials_bikes/onza_sting_2013/c507p11940.html The onza mini master was to small but by the look of him on it on Christmas Day the Sting is a little to big for him still. He will grow into it fairly quickly but to allow him to have better control of it now and not get pi$$ed of with it because he can't do anything on it, would a shorter stem and cutting the bars down help. The stem on it now looks to be a 35degree 100mm long one so I could swap for a super short 70mm one like http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_stems/bbb_forged/c41p11644.html Or do they do shorter? Would putting this short stem on this alter the geometry/ handing characteristics of the bike too much and still prevent him from making any progress? I am new to trails and am not really sure where he needs to be positioned on the bike. Or would it be ok The bars also look really wide, how wide should they be I relation to his shoulder width? Apologies if this is a bit of a dumb question, dads know nothing after all ) Phil

I am checking the for sale section on this forum daily and have a search on ebay running, should i be looking anywhere else ?? A mk1 Fourplay when did they first come out? and when did they become mk2?

As the title says, looking to spend £500ish on a 24" for my teenage son. Would I be better with a new Onza Zoot, or keep an eye out ( and may be spend a little bit extra) on a secondhand Inspired. He isn't bothered about a pre owned bike (all his previous ones have been ) and I guess a secondhand element would have some slightly better bits on it so might be a bit longer before he wants to upgrade bits which will inevitably happen with the cheaper Onza. But on the otherhand secondhand stuff might wear out or break before the new stuff, I am handy with a spanner so this would only be a cash issue. He is fairly new to the street trials scene so I doubt he would be able to tell the differance between the two or be able to do more on one than the other, is one more suited to a beginner? Does one have more street creed than the other? Thanks Philip