i've extended those monty ones you sold me, and they feel very different...i run them tilted quite far forward so the sweep isn't too bad...very nice otherwise- maybe trialtech bars?...not actually out yet but PM dave and see what's happening. Same shape as the monty but with slightly less rise, less sweep and wider... or the new 26" monty bars (should be out soon)...less sweep, more width... not got a clue about mtb bars edit- "7075 butted construction, ~310g, 740mm wide, will be coming in black, silver or powdercoat white finish. Hopefully gonna be available towards the end of April/very early May"