
Sam Song
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After riding it for a couple months made some changes - Removed the 3 spinny gears, currently at 7 speed right now - shorter 80 x 10 stem - newer continental race king tires.
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Thanks for the help! I am using a Shimano XT 10 speed cassette with the range of 11-32, I am reading that the 11t cannot move inwards? Is this correct? If so, I would actually need to take out the 11t sprocket and make it a 6 speed in order for me to move the cassette all the way in right?
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After actually riding this bike, you are right. I am not using the spinny gears, even on a trail. It is just way too low to be useful. And the geo of this bike was still not meant for any serious climbing anyways. So for the 10 speed cassette I am using, the biggest three sprockets are on the same carrier plate that I can take off, so it would effectively be a 7 speed cassette. Can I run this as a 7 speed with the same 10 speed Saint shifter/derailleur?
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In my 10 years of trials riding, I never used anything on the chain of a trials bike. If you normally just ride on paved concrete the exposure to dirt and grime is minimal. And you should be replacing your chain every 6 months or so anyways so lubing is not an issue.
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I am looking for an OG trials style mini seat for this bike, if anyone has any for sale! I will pay shipping to Canada
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Thanks Ross! You are so detail oriented like a true trials rider. Lol. The dust cap must have fallen while taking it in and out of my car. I always left that orange sticker on but now that you mentioned I took a look at it for the first time. It is a warning sticker not to put your finger through while the wheel is rolling. Hahaha. So I did not post it in the original photo, but as this bike is my only bike with a seat, I am going to be swapping the seatpost back and forth with a dropper post with the actuator lever at the seat for pedaling riding cruising in the city, as well as some mountain trail riding with uphill climbs. Since this Norco has a decent sized seat tube, you could actually get a full leg extension with a dropper post extended and all the way up, which you would not be able to do on a modern Inspired. Because of where I am living right now, I can really only have two bikes because of space issue. With one being a high bb trials bike, I wanted the second bike to be able to do as diverse of riding as possible. If I just wanted a good street/Street trials bike, an Inspired Hex would have made a lot more sense. As for the cassette, I originally had a Shimano Duraace 12-23 cassette, which is smaller than the Shimano XT mountain 11-32 cassette I have on right now. The reason I switched from Duraace to XT Mtn cassette is that road cassettes tend to have a narrow base, which can easily dig into the Chris King aluminum driveshell I have in the back (which you cannot even find a replacement for since Chris King discontinued the parts for the old hubs). For the Duraace cassette I first had the 18 tooth sprocket I would be using the most was joined with another sprocket to make a slightly wider base but still quite narrow. I was reading on some other forum posts that people have destroyed their aluminum freehub driveshell using a road cassette. However, on the XT mountain cassette, the 18 tooth sprocket sits on a wide uninterrupted aluminum sprocket carrier plate, which distributes the torque a lot better which should prevent the sprocket from digging in. I have ridden King hubs long enough to have dealt with cogs digging in. I just did not want to deal with the BS. Yes pretty much, I am still holding on to some quality XTR parts off of the bike. There would be some traditionalists who would rather see old bikes with 'period correct' parts, but I am not one of those people. Haha
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Oh yes, that stem is gone after the first ride. It has a 80mm stem now. It was just my inexperience with these short mtb style bikes putting that long stem on. I like the short stem a lot better for what I want to do with this bike.
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Thanks! Red and black are my favorite color combo both in and outside of biking. Haha So these are rated for DH/Freeride use, so I think it should be strong enough? It may not hold up as well for bashing on concrete but I built this for doing manuals/bunnyhops and not to inch hunt so I don't think I will be bashing the cranks that much.
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How to set up a suspension fork for trials/street riding
Sam Song replied to Sam Song's topic in Trials Chat
I already have a high BB Echo for pure trials. The second bike I have built is for street trials, street/DJ, light trail/city cruising bike, so I wanted a suspension fork to have that flexibility. https://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/201894-norco-manifesto-project-bike/ -
How to set up a suspension fork for trials/street riding
Sam Song replied to Sam Song's topic in Trials Chat
Wow thank you for your lengthy reply. This is way beyond what I was thinking of! -
The build is all done. Specs: Frame: 09 Norco Manifesto, custom red powder coat Control - Chris King Headset, Aliexpress Carbon stem, Jitsie Carbon bar, Sam Hill Nukeproof grips Brakes: - Front: Shimano Saint M820 with 8 inch Shimano rotor - Rear: Shimano Saint M820 with 7 inch Shimano rotor Drivetrain: - Shimano Saint M820 Shifter/Derailleur, Jagwire elite link shift cable, Truvative Descendant Carbon cranks, Chris King BB, Sam Hill Nukeproof Ti Pedals. Wheels: - 38mm Light Bicycle Carbon rims, Chris King Hubs, Alloy Nipples, Sapim CX Ray bladed spokes, Shimano XT 10 spd cassette, KMC 10 speed e bike chain - Continental Race King 2.2 Supersonic x 2, Tubolito tubes, Tannus Armor tire insert (Rear only) Fork: Manitou Circus Expert lowered to 80mm. Saddle: Tioga Race BMX Seat Weighs 24lbs
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I am in the process of setting up a dirtjump fork for trials riding. I don't have much experience with suspension forks. What do you recommend to set the forks? Is it as simple as as firm as possible to feel like a rigid fork? Travel is 80mm.
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Thanks for everyone's input on this. The moral of this thread is: Hold on to your existing bikes until things get better! On a humorous note, Zoo Trials Frame Vintage Zoo! Bicycle Silver Boa Pitbull Echo FSA Pig 135 mm | eBay It wasnt that long ago these things were being sold for $50 USD. Hahaha
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Anyone else finding it challenging to source new trials parts/frames nowadays? Even going through Tarty, it is hard not to notice the lack of stock on parts. There is only one 26 frame available for instance 26" Frames (tartybikes.co.uk) I remember at one point, there was such a large selection of different manufacturers from Zoo, Echo, Gu, Onza, Ozonys, Diamondback Ashton, etc. Outside of Inspired, it is getting harder to find replacements for trials specific ISIS BB/cranks. Right now, unless you want to get a street trials bike, it is very hard to source all the parts to build a "pure trials" bike from scratch even if one had the money. Also would love to find a decent trials specific v brake booster too, which seems to be impossible to find these days. Do you think the trials parts availability will improve any time soon?
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Wow that looks great. Are you actually riding it hard as your main bike? Or just doing fun laid back riding since it is so pretty?
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Thanks! The original color was ruined anyways so I wanted to make it my own style since I have not seen a custom painted manifesto before. So I do not know a whole lot but from a quick online search, Measured with a 440mm fork, 1055mm wb, 69HA, 395 chainstay, 308mm bottom bracket height.
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Your front wheel moves are dialed! Awesome work Full face helmet for trials is interesting...
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I recommend Tairin, heard good things about them; and they actually mention trials riding on their product website
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I actually have both a 9mm qr hub and a 20mm qr hub, haven't decided on the fork yet And yes and yes on the second part :)
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That seems rather expensive for a pair of v brake levers I have this one and like it quite well: https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/deorext-t780/BL-T780-B.html