Mike, everyone is allowed an oppinion. It is inevitable that not everyone will like your product, as you can see from this topic there are many people who are genuinely interested in the zoot, however there are some others who are not. Some of the reasons have more credability than others, for me its the ideaoligy behind it. If I am honest if Zoo or Echo where the first to bring out a 24 UCI bike they would get the same treatment. Its not just onza. As for Akrigg, is his Charge an adaptation of the dirt jump frame or a new frame completely?