I think they both ride biketrials for the fun factor (doesn't totally sum up why they dont do comps). Personally, I don't wanna have to queue to ride a section, or pay to ride a comp, or have my bike set up in a certain way. I hate taking it seriously too, afterall its only a hobby (for me anyways), everyones different... Ive see people at comps get upset/mad cos they dont score as well as they wanted to, well thats fair doo's. How many street comps are there compared to normal ones... natty isn't everyones cuppa tea. There's too many rules and I dont find them fun, a lot of riders are completely the opposite.