WIGAN ??

yeah i suppose im with you there the freewheels+hubs are pretty good, as for the frames i cant really say iv not had an echo frame since 2007 but the forks are pretty diabolical thesedays aswell :\

i knew you where going to pull this card but i am admittedly a 'tgs basher' and im over 14 stone many parts dont last me long but all the trialtech stuff iv had has served me very well, all im saying is echo's gone abit shit from what it used to be thats all

whats 30 grams over an extra 18 months of life ?

trialtech seem to manage it, i had my magnesium's for about 2 years before i got rid of them

echo has fallen to bits, remember the days when they did all the best parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFogupfFp8k

scooping your feet back and upwards while hopping helps lift the front end up a little

that was good, brakeless is very hard

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAH, this topic is brilliant

remember when everyone had armourdillo's and no one ran FFW

staple diet of.....?

thats probably why they break so easy come to think of it

id love one of those bet its like best of both worlds, control and balance of a stock but still short and flicky like a mod, looks nice mate

they vary, 'mid' is the usual size wich is larger than like a threaded bb, and 'spanish' is about the same size as a mtb bb

was really looking forward to this but as usual the great british weather f**ks everything haha

yeah you would have thought that would be the case but for some reason the bearings die a lot more often than in like a shell bb i think they're crap from personal experience

yeah thats how to do it, i built a 28 hole rim onto a 32 hole hub about 3 years ago its fine to this day, its when you have missing spokes on the rim it gets bad

if im honest i really dont see the point, my bmx uses the same kind of thing and iv gone through about 3 bb's in a year and iv had the same one on my trials for about 4 years, i think its just a way for manufacturers to keep costs down with the price of everything going up these days

try using the tarty guide about grinding also keep the tyre on like ali said, what rim are you using because some rims have a slight angle on them you can barely even see it by eye but it just means your pads take a little longer to bed in squarely to the rim, other than that i really don't know if you say its all bled and set up right

everyone just eat some ice and chill, were all mates here

had this song in my head all day haha, too good

when i went to stock from mod 3 years ago i started off with a stupidly low stem and zoo bars, and every time i lifted my front end it made my bike so much nicer to ride and everything felt easier, im running a mod stem on there at the moment lol, yours does sound quite high though i'd just leave it as is

haha yes jamie that was sick