Cheers will do next time, just that in that little space in grass and curb i do it off when i pull up more i tend to hit my pedal.. Thanks anyway Will try it i know i can do alot higher, when i do it next to an object i can do it by miles and then when it comes down to it, i can only just do it :| but hopefully all that will come in practise and time. Cheers Yeap your perfectly right, i have seen alot of videos on here and youtube and all the big sidehops iv seen are very balanced and seem to be ages on the back wheel and then jump, i do one kick then up cause i have no balance to be honest so everything has to be rushed. Thanks for comments