Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up So it'd basically a safeguard against damaging the frame? So the hanger attatches to the frame and the other end to the mech, which is attatched to the wheel? Any pics to show examples? I've been looking into some bikes, I've now decided it'll either be a 20" or 24" I'm thinking about getting a Yaabaa 449 Senior if I chose 20" The tarty set-up http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?pr...;category_id=10 or if I go for 24" I'll have Tarty's Inspired Fourplay Spec1 http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?pr...;category_id=50 I'm still undecided, only thing is that if I go for the Inspired it'll take awhile to get 'cuz I gotta save up lol. so I'm thinking, I might aswell go ahead and get the Yaabaa and start riding atleast, then slowly save up and get the Inspired... So now my question is... Think the Yaabaa is a good set-upfor a newbie? Thanks, Sirius