I’ve had this rear Echo tyre from last summer) Just didn’t really use it until recently when the Maxxis CC ran out of thread. There's really isn’t much difference between this one and the new ones. These tyres are in fact from the Luna factory, so, it’s the same thread as the Luna tyres, and the Onza sticky. The new echo tyres are unbranded, so no white line and Logo. The grip on the tyre is alright, but not as good as the Maxxis CC. The compound on the tyres are pretty hard, and when side hoping, the result in that is chunks ripping off the tyres Not much rolling resistance, so its ideal (for me anyways), and it offers a pretty good bounce. Oh, the sidewalls are pretty thick as well, so the puncture resistance is good. Downside is the amount of wax on the tyre when its new, it gets all over your rim surface , So just get a rag or something, and wipe of the wax.