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And clutter up your computer with an essentially unnecessary additional OS and related files which, if you'd just had a PC like 90% of the world you wouldn't have had to! I still don't see why don't they just make white plastic PC's (running their OS if needs be) but which are user friendly, versatile and compatible with what is virtually a world standard? Edit: Yes I do have a deep down hatred for all things mac but I would really like to understand their logic behind making their systems (deliberately) as incompatible as possible with what the majority of the world use... Please explain!!

*Nods vaguely* But they're just painting themselves into a corner making it more difficult for users to do anything. Edit: and on the legal front: "Apple claimed the "look and feel" of the Macintosh operating system, taken as a whole, was protected by copyright" Surely that's just stupid? Any kind of GUI will be copied and made a skin for another 100 programs the week after it's released. They've been playing with their one button mouses for too long if you ask me .

That's the other thing with apple- everyone slates Microsoft for being evil but in my mind apple are 10 times worse by making it virtually impossible to use anything but their own hardware/software/formats/white plastic things...

Because they're 'cool'. I've yet to see someone with an iphone who hasn't got it out on show so everyone can see they've got an iphone... Big. Wow.

In itunes I presume? But to get music into itunes it plays silly buggers with the file names and type and whatever else. MP4 isn't a 'normal' video format though is it? The world revolves around mpeg... and yup divx is a no no. However, if you get any other brand of mp3 player *goes to amazon to copy the first list he finds* can deal with "AAC (.M4A) support along with MP3, WMA, WAVE and Audible, WMV and DivX/XviD support (320x240)" and I'm guessing you simply drag them from a folder on your hard drive to a folder on the device. Now someone please tell me why the hell apple have to be such awkward bastards?

Well that was 100% not the case when I tried to stick some mpegs and divx files or whatever onto my GF's brothers nano last year. Absolute joke.

My main issue with those are the fact that you have to use whatever format apple decide. Whatever you import it will always convert it to its own stupid format and screw around for no reason. Why you can't just drag and drop .mp3's onto an ipod like you can with any other mp3 player I'll never know. And don't get me started on whatever shitty video format you have to use on video ipods... Grr.

But WHY can't apple just allow people to use 'normal stuff' like that on their own bloody machines instead of making even their fans resort to buying a damn PC as well?!! It's like if Ford made the best cars in the world but you didn't get a steering wheel with them so if you want to actually go anywhere useful you'd need to buy a Vauxhall as well. Crap example but you get the idea- apple are awkward and annoying for absolutely NO reason. itunes and the ipod is a perfect example of that.

Good stuff! Haven't seen Dan since Bristol ages ago I think.

Hey Steve- bike looks sweet! Is that a wedgebodge I spy?! Will have to hook up for a ride sometime- don't suppose you're out in Soton tomorrow? Dave

Yup. Hated them. Have I said that I hate macs? 'Cos I do.

Phone a powder coaters and ask?... From experience you're probably looking at £25-£30.

Well I basically haven't been able to use one for more than a few minutes without wanting to throw it through the nearest window so can't really compare much else. They just seem really 'gimmicky' even the OS with it's flowy futuristic way of working is just for show and doesn't help anything except probably to slow the computer down using silly graphic-heavy stuff. Even things like the 'heartbeat' when you turn off the 'G' whatevers just seems totally pointless to me.

I just don't like Macs. I'd go as far as saying I hate them. No real reason, they just make me angry to use and seem to spend far more time/money making them look... different (Note: not nice) than making them work any better than anything else out there. No right click winds me up something chronic. 'Oh but you can just use the apple key or buy a different mouse' I hear you cry... why the hell should I have to? Just supply the damn thing with a two button mouse to begin with! As I said, apple make me angry. Give me a nice, simple and intuitive to use PC any day of the week.

Reckon I'm gonna ride Soton on Sunday so going to give tomorrow a miss. Sorry guys!

Manual up rail... whaaaat?!

Maserati Tipo of some sort?

All that's left is for Mr Mackey to say... Mm'kay.

I haven't said 'wobble' once. Or 'mangled'. I simply stated that the BB was likely to stretch the crank spline and cause creaking. That's not wobble, or dangerous, or even a problem really- just a niggle. Tim you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole that was never a hole to start with.

It may not be broke but (most of your bike) is pretty much falling apart and dangerous!! Take some pride in your bike and show it some lurve!

You're a sham of a mockery of a mockery of a sham Mitch!!

Oh dear. Everyone knows Humpty Dumpty was a 17th century tank/cannon. Rubbish Humpty Dumpty topic? Done. [/Gordon Ramsey voice]

How's the front brake? Still got our teeth I presume?!

I'm split between this one: And this one:

There was no hint at any kind of accelerated failure of anything. The worst that could happen (as discussed earlier) is saggy crank splines leading to creaking. Pretty sure there is no way what's been described could cause any kind of reduction in strength or longevity. My issues have been with aluminium stopper rings which tend to crush (as discussed earlier) and deform which for one means the crank spline becomes damaged leading to creaking but also means that you often can't get the BB tool over the deformed ring which just annoys me. My question with the Moe BB was brought about because of the picture that you posted caught my attention because firstly the stopper ring's aluminium and also that the stopper ring wouldn't stop the deformation of the crank spline even when new.