I just feel kind of sorry for 'true believers'. Although it's obviously good if they get something out of it I can't help thinking that 99.9% of people who are religious are so purely because it's what they've been taught to believe since an early age and have never questioned it. It just seems like an exit for those without any kind of thought or decision making process... 'And Jebus said: black is white'. 'Oh, is it? Ok'. I think the worst thing about chirtianity is the bible itself... You'd think that anyone who read the first few pages would immediately dispel it as clearly a work of fiction, maybe even a kids story book. The fact that anyone could even consider any of what is written after that to be true is laughable to me. It's not just christians of course, they're just the ones who I tend to be exposed to most in the UK. You'll be glad to know that since 2001 I've gained a good hatred of the Muslim 'faith' and the more I learn about their beliefs the more I see them as being maybe 500-1000 years behind modern society. Anyway, probably best not to delve much deeper into that... for christians on here, Hannah Shucksmith's always good for a bit of an argument discussion on the topic of how you can simultaneously believe in both evolution and creationism . But the thing is that they haven't come to believe through any kind of evidence, or mental enlightenment, they have simply been told (often early in life) 'This is the truth. There is no other possible truth. You will believe and defend this truth whenever anyone questions this truth'. That obviously doesn't make them bad people, but I do think it makes them incredibly gullible and, possibly, a little stupid for not questioning it. "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him in the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk, but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle." Edit: That Westboro Baptist Church... how is it that in America where they love their army and wars almost as much as they love their guns that they haven't shot the picketers at soldiers funerals and burnt the church down? Oh, yeah, they're also all stupid, god fearing folks too...