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Peer backslapping theory? Proven. (Jokes, jokes )

But the plane takes off, right?

I'm just asking because the deltas up to 120 are 20 and then you jump to 60, 60, 80 which seemed a bit odd.

Is that table in the first post definitely correct for what you need?

It doesn't work though, well, not as a quadratic anyway...

Possibly but there's no guarantee it'll be compatible plus the Trialtech Sport axle costs £20 so we're back to just buying a new (or second hand) hub.

I'm with you right up until you mention BPM, bars etc... If it were just maths I'd be all over it but I have no clue whatsoever about bars and musicy shiznitz.

This, but also the axle of course.

Can't tell if you're serious or not... Kinda weird that that actually exists. I'm on a bunch of motorbike forums (mainly Kawasaki and ER6 ones) plus supermotojunkie. Oh also a Rover owners forum .

It could be done but unless you have a lathe in your garage, the skills to use it, plus a bunch of time it simply isn't worth it.

On that point, in my mind, something like the Olympic identity shouldn't require any knowledge of design or any understanding. There are millions of brands out there that create a positive impact immediately and these I feel absolutely no loathing for whatsoever. I completely respect that in most instances a lot of thought goes into an identity to make a successful visual impact and create a 'brand'. For the case of the Olympic logo (leaving aside the 'identity') it seems to me like these people at Wolff Olins were taking the piss. I can't believe that not one person in that studio/board room didn't say "but... it's a bit, well, shit isn't it?". The logo just doesn't seem to do anything it should and from the public reaction, back in 2007 or whatever, it would appear that the majority of the public feel the same. Again, I thought a brand/logo ought to create an opinion and gets it's point across in a glance and at a glance, or after looking at it many times, that logo is still rubbish in my opinion. And regarding the plonking, you can't deny that on that Wolff Olins page they don't do anything other than show the same logo (in different colours) carefully placed on things. Having looked at the links you shared there I can see there is more to it, but that doesn't come across in that initial link. I'll admit that I don't have the most positive perspective on 'design' in this context which I find (rightly or wrongly) too closely linked to 'modern art'. From the outside there seems to be too much bullshit involved and unjustified peer backslapping etc. I apologise if that's an ignorant and unfair generalisation but I can only tell it likes I sees it.

I demand a video of this new extreme sport.

In complete honesty I cannot see what you mean by creating an entire identity, rather than just a logo, and from the link you posted I seriously can't see what they've done apart from plonk the logo on things. On that page they've plonked it next to an Adidas logo, plonked it on the page of a magazine, plonked it next to a UPS logo, plonked it on a big screen while generally just changing the colours. To my untrained eye that is not an identity that's reusing a crap logo and plonking it in various places. I'm not trying to be ignorant, stupid or retarded but I look at that page and all I see is the same logo reused in different places. What am I missing?!! And regards 'you can never please an entire nation' I've yet to meet someone who even remotely like the logo (identity?). It doesn't appear to be just me who thinks it's shockingly poor but the majority of the nation. Obviously design is subjective but if you need a qualification in brand identity to understand that what they've produced is 'good' then they've got it wrong and done a shit job from what I can tell.

Personally I'd probably run them the other way round. Having the harder tyre on the back will mean it lasts longer and you'll have the soft front to give cornering traction and confidence.

Fair enough

Looks like 145mm x 25 or 30 degrees.

Why does it matter? You need a new chain so order one. A Z610HX if you're smart.

It's impossible to have a truly stretch proof chain, unless you run something so heavy it would be silly. The Z610HX just means that it won't stretch like a bitch when new and over the life of the chain will, in theory, stretch less. Good chains though, I must say.

With regards the OP, there's no reason to go to a 1/8 chain if your drivetrain is set up for 3/32. The strength is the same and you'd just be adding unnecessary weight.

It's not a competition and I respect that Matthew's profession gives him a far more educated view on these things and I can only comment from a laymen's point of view. Having said that, with things like the Olympic identity, I hope that these world renowned design studios don't simply believe their own hype and get complacent. With the 2012 logo (and in fact these 'modern artists' and their posters) I get the feeling we're supposed to be in awe of their brilliance and are expect to be impressed with their genius because they tell us that what they've produced is simply awesome. I respectfully disagree!

That's a negative big daddy. Almost looks like Ben Savage when he comes down the stairs but not sure.

With regards the logo, yes they could! I bet you on this forum alone there are probably 30+ people who if given the brief could come up with a design which would be far better received than the crap thing Wolff Olins did. Lets face it, it would be harder to do a worse job! I was expecting a wide range of innovative and clever designs but from what I can see on that page all they've done is plonked that awful logo on lots of things. So actually, maybe thousands of people could 'do it'.

But the whole point of design, especially for something like the Olympic 'identity', is that it is aimed at the public, the over riding majority of who have no interest or training on what designers think the identity should be and only what it should be in the eyes of the masses. The crap that Wolff Olins produced is so wide of the mark it's unreal and in this case it's quite clear that any one of thousands of normal Brits could've done a better job which would've been immediately accepted and liked by the vast majority. I don't doubt that's there's a lot that goes on in the background with stuff like this but with the Olympics that abomination that is the 'identity' started things off badly and gave everyone a sour taste in their mouth from then on. The release of these appalling posters only helps to reinforce the belief that those organising the Olympics, together with the talentless drivel produced by many of our 'leading artists' is laughable. Did anyone see the clip of the guy who did the painting that kinda looks like a five level podium? I rest my case... Were Wolff Olins also the geniuses behind the deformed monstrosities that are the Olympic mascots?

Unfortunately, from my cynical point of view, it won't change anything. The system is too deep rooted and set in its ways to change significantly. And then you have the governments defending and protecting the banks to give them free reign to do what they want from the looks of things. It seems to me like although it was the wbankers who screwed everything up for everyone, they haven't lost out in the slightest and it's business as usual for them. It's everyone else who is suffering from the fallout and struggling. Unfortunately I don't think a few people Occupying anywhere will change that.

These 'Occupy The Cotswolds' things are completely lost on me. Occupy Wall Street, fair enough- major trading zone, world renowned financial district, I get it. Occupy Bournemouth? Occupy that area with the steps outside St Pauls? I don't get I'm afraid.