Got new frame and forks last friday, finaly got it built up, had a ride on sunday in trials park in Barrow farm, unfortunately did not take any rding pics but it was amazing. So here it is, my stinger, might cut forks a bit lower though. Also a bit heavy at the moment 11kg, i think because I got some beasty tyres on it - nevegal 2.5 and 2.1 Riden it for 3 hours yesterday and finaly got used to it. Haven't riden for 3.5 weeks before that, so i was very impressed when I did a tap i would strugle on my old LE. So I fully agree to Ali C that longer do help, I can feel it, but I still don't understand how, because you would need to tuck lower? Frame also feels very stiff! Anyways want to thank tarty for sorting me out that quick as I know they were very busy last week. And I changed my marta that I used for a month maybe to a hope, 100x better! Love it! Next time I will take Adams advice and get hope straight away! Tip* always listen to Adam!