this topic has gone totally off the main post.... hopes have a excellent warrenty, no import taxes to pay (unlike CK ) my king did slip when i was dropping into half pipe from a sub-box, resulting in a fractured skull THROUGH my helmet, knocked out instantly for like 45mins, compressed spine, night in hospital, and a month off work my hope (when i had it) never slipped on anything major, just little things such as pedaling away form a junction, and even then that was rare point of the fact is i'm debating selling off my king and buying a Pro2T when they become widely available