I did really see the point of contacting you about them, What would you off done? You can stand there and say I used them on a harsh grind but my rim cant even take a harsh grind. And the grind goes dead in a week. Like I said in another post. Neco pads are the best pads i have ever used. Great hold and bite and amazing noise. Gave me loads of confidence. It was just the wear life. if you got that sorted i would buy them agian deffo.