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really want to ride there ive never heard of observers refusing observe because of the weather, then again observers are doing it 100% for free and some give up alot of time and effort to arrange these comps and are taking up there ownn time and spending there own money to go there, i can understand why some of them would not want to observe in the tipping down rain for f**k all, what the biketrial federation do for bike comps in britain is brilliant i think on a budget of a shoe string, people are far to quick to judge and make comments about stuff like that and i think its out of order.

i dont get what you mean mark..

agree with you ali, i was thinking of mostly comps in the uk though, where there is barley any artificial obscatles apart from barrow farm, and alot of the riding is very tech and lots of rocks.

all trials bikes are designed to be ridden on the back wheel... hence the low top tube

who were you talking to then jd? get off your high horse your nothing special! LOL

where have i said any thing that street riding and all is "wrong" i got a mate who rides street and ride with him most days, i prefer comp riding but aint got any thing against street even if i do find it a bit boring yes that is my opinion which i am entitled to... and ali yes i know he did not make it, i did not say high bb was the best for everything i just said high bottom bracket is over all the best for competitions..

cheers cai thats exactly the point i was trying to say, too many narrow minded people on here, matts style does not involve any spins or what ever and is a pure trials style e.g hoppy hoppy there for the echo would be much better suited, jd where have i called them a big bmx? and where have i done any name calling...

yet carthy still wheel swaps, hooks, pigeons, taps etc... comps are defo not all on the back wheel they would be impossible not even gilles goes through a section just on his back wheel!

you lot are clueless. why do you lot all have so much beef with me and dave and all? isit because we dont follow the crowd?

comps are not all ridden on there back wheel? dont know any comp where i have seen some one ride a comp doing just back wheel moves, hell qubec (canada) world round last year or the year before had 2 massive kickers..

i didnt ask a question, i just said that you would probably realise the benefits of a high bb in a comp. which is true.

why say "next question?" some people on here really need to pipe down its pathetic you all think your big time and better then any body else its getting boring now.

where did i mention about you not riding comps any more, also if you kept your eye on the comp scene you would realize it is all not just back wheel everything...

your clearly follow your competitions quite closely, what is your problem? why are you trying to like out do me, lol sure get weird kicks..

explain why all modern comp frames have at least +60 bb then

the benefits of high bottom bracket should be quite appartent as soon as you go near any comp senerio

echo every time, you got your planet x for streety shit, your style does not involved spins, bunny hops etc.. so why buy a bike which would make it harder for the moves you already do compared to the echo where it would be easier?

why do you keep trying to make out that he is wrong then?

say that to gilles, clueless...

i love the way that you two think your clever-er then two engineers, its boring. dave has said valid points but just because he says them you get all arsey, you all run an inspired and recomend them to every one, is that really fit for purpose?

sweet video bro, not your best riding though! defo some good stuff though! a natural video on your stock would be sick!! x

yeah like said this is dave just doing a bit of training, he is a LOT better on his 26 and i cant wait to make a video to prove this! x

its in wisemans bridge partz not mumbles, this was just a ride matt so that dave trys to bring his skills on his mod as good as his stock for when he rides the worlds later on this year

yeah this video is very poor in terms of showing how big most of the stuff is, was quite windy that day as well, most things were made first time also X

ta comments on the riding? X