FFS.....its hull........hull for the win, it may be full o smelly skanks and wankers and damons....but hull is the place to be. Also wherever adam is from (somewhere near the lake district i think), and possibly even a little bit in loughborough, where they both studied Sports science or something similar. Im a stalker.. oh forgot to say, good lad dave....one day you'll back, and see something you will always be proud of doing, no matter how things pan out, for the time being things are good, if they go bad in the future you and adam can always say you were the most successful trials only shop in the world (probably). Thanks for helping me along in trials lad, really appreciate everything you have done for me. cheers u hully gully