Show us a picture of your bar and stem combo. At the moment, I'm using some azonic world force bars, 2in of rise, and an amoeba stem, possibly 60mm, 10deg rise. Something like that. Riding it now, I can feel al I need is a nice, possibly 20deg, 100m stem, something like that. Thing is, I don't want to rely on a shim. Reckon I should just shim it?