seem to me your the one who doesnt get it, and as for you saying a maxxis product is shit doesnt bother me at all but your making a mountain out of a mole hill here, either ride the cheaper tyres and dont moan about the ride, or buy the more expensive tyres and dont moan about the price. f**k safe go and ride your bike and stop debaiting every thing. and as for the sweet spot- elgato is is the same when it comes to off cambour it just launches you in one direction, but let the pressure down abit and they don't, infact they wrap round nice,like most tyres with paper side walls. but if you land hard they pinch simple as that i rode and el gato for years i know what im talking about here, managed not to pinch it that much(leaned to be smooth) i think thei topic has gone on long enough