Ok, Last week Jeremy Clarkson played GT4, chose the Lagura seca as a track then chose a Honda NSX (arcade mode) and went as fast as he could to do the best lap time He got 1:41 He then went to the Real Laguna Seca in america, drove the same car, the Honda NSX and managed a first lap time of 2:01 He improved and got it down to 1:58, shame really, i suppose it proves the game simply isnt the same as the real thing, even though he feels it can be done in 1:41 for real The challenge has bin set down to do 1:41 on GT4 in an Honda NSX on Laguna Seca My M8 has done it, just and he knows what he is doing do its not easy Off you go