Not sure if you can get Tugs on my frame to be honest. Makes sense Yeh Unfortunatlel though, i can't run them on the outside as far as i know, gay CNCing going on Tis a pain in the arse to be honest, can't ride more than 10 minutes without it happening, Pics and a description would be Lovely Tried that. Didn't work It's not so much the chain been too tight/loose that annoys me, it's the constant rubbing of the tyre on the frame that annoys me, it's gonna wear a hole one day Cheers for the advice Guys Anymore ideas ?