update..... my worst bail was tonight when i went to gap a stare set (about 4ft off the ground) lost my balence backwards, and jumped off the side of my bike (it was the wisest thing to do at the time).....the back wheel stook on the top of the wall, and i didnt let go of my hands.... (nearly ripped my sholders out of joint) i let go of the bike and fell flat on my arse on some nice wet soggy mud , now my arms are killin ...Suli...