--> QUOTE(joe b @ Dec 21 2006, 10:55 AM) ←Lessons: 1. Do not buy an 05 Echo CNC rim (even though they don't make them any more - bit of a pointless lesson). 2. Do not go to the shop who charged you £20 for a wheelbuild, ever again. 3. New rim and wheelbuild from Tarty. Then you know your not getting f**ked over . Bit of a b*****d about the rim anyway... Cheers, Joe. Perfect. I have one of them rims on the rear and my brother was using it and after about 2-3 weeks we counted over 20 dents (not strong ), get the new echo rim i hear hey are bomb proof