Fair plate, i do relise that you may think there is no need for a new frame its your opinion, however i payed for this with alll of my own money that i have earned ( not from my perents) and i have the right to do with it what i would like sorry if it would seem wrong but i do however relise where you are coming from. As for danny,k i relise there is a bit of tention between us and i do acctualy no that your a pritty sound guy, you have a right to your own opinion and i have a right to do what i want with my money i do like u buddy and sorry for any miss understandings. The bike rides nice but i havent had a chance to ride it properly yet I dont see why you would hate someone just becuase they got a new bike, seems a bit pathetic to me thanks alot, sorry if any of that comes off bad i am trying to be nice