Must say, i agree with Gav, he's the only one here that's ACTUALLY ridden and owned (afaik) a Banshee of any sorts. Everyone slates them because Halfords sell them, but i had a proper good blat up and down outside the shop on an XXX, and it was f**king mint! I don't think it's quite up to hardcore freeride, as it's kinda a very very heavy duty XC bike (large frame suggests). The only thing the Kona Stinky has on the XXX is the rear shock isn't quite as good as the Stinky's... Fer real, the Banshee range rides really nice. Probably isn't the best way to tell if a bike rides nice, but to me, if it wheelies well it's got a nice geo. The XXX, i literally wheelied for about 100m, stopped pedaling, just sat on the back wheel with a tiny bit of brake feathering. Feels so good. I'm currently trying to make up my mind between the XXX (around 500 quid on trade to me) and the Stinky (780 quid on trade) Banshee, at least the normal one, has lockout on both sus's too so it'll be fine for going up hills... Glad you brought them up Gav.