Hmm, to the people saying it's gonna install programs and stuff, i'm a p00ter n00b (sort of, i'd call myself an advanced user) and you're the 1337 but aren't we forgetting trojans and all that malarky, trojan means getting into your system undetected... And if you've got zonealarm or any other firewall... You set it so MSN never gets blocked, which is how it does this? And it can access the net using MSN... Probably not correct but it's my thoughts... Disclaimer: I am in NO way backing up what Pete has said as this would be pure stupidity Only joking Pete